Thunderbird Mail 102.01?

[Şerban S.]

Good day Serban, Jerry,

Is such repository ppa script meant to be run on any Series, or only on 6.x ones, otherwise it might break somehow the system configuration?

I'm 5.x same as Vint tells us in his profile he is. I dont recall if he upgraded to 6.0 or not.

Thank you in advance for your great support!

The problem is less about the PPA.
The problem is IF the Thunderbird 102.3.0 is compatible with the version of the OS.
Now, to find if it does, you can do this:

Code:

sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade thunderbird

IF and only IF Thunderbird 102.3 is compatible with Linux Lite 5.x (for now, 5.8, the latest release of the 5.x series), you will get the upgrade. Else, you will get some message like "Nothing to upgrade" or "You already have the latest version" which means that the current version (102.3.0) has dependencies specific to the Linux Lite 6.x series (Ubuntu 22.x). The same applies to FireFox.

This is how it looks on my computer:

Code:

sudo apt upgrade thunderbird
Reading package lists... 0%                                                     
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
thunderbird is already the newest version (1:91.11.0+build2-0ubuntu0.22.04.1).
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  libspeechd2 python3-speechd speech-dispatcher
  speech-dispatcher-audio-plugins speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.

Notice the line:
thunderbird is already the newest version

As you can see, nothing bad happens.

All the best!

[vint]

Howdy Serban,
I am running LL 5.8 and the info on the profile is correct, I have not had any problems since running the code and implementing and updating Mozilla and Thunderbird.  I really appreciate the help you've given to a Linux novice like me, sometimes it is a bit overwhelming with the command line because there are so many distros. 

[Şerban S.]

Howdy Serban,
I am running LL 5.8 and the info on the profile is correct, I have not had any problems since running the code and implementing and updating Mozilla and Thunderbird.  I really appreciate the help you've given to a Linux novice like me, sometimes it is a bit overwhelming with the command line because there are so many distros.

I'm very glad to hear that! That means that many people running some LL 5.x version will be able to install and use one or both.
That's good to know!

Best regards!

[vint]

I didn't give a thought to you running 6.0 when you gave me the code, but everything is still running great and no problems at all.

Best regards

[vint]

FYI,
Thunderbird mail successfully updated this morning to 102.3.1 from the codes given by Serban, I am running Linux Lite 5.8 on a Compaq Presario CQ 56 2 gigahertz processor and 4 GB ram dual boot with Windows 7 home premium on a 320 GB HDD.  I haven't had any errors or problems with the updates of both Thunderbird mail and Mozilla Firefox browser.  Thanks to Serban and Jerry for the help.

[Şerban S.]

FYI,
Thunderbird mail successfully updated this morning to 102.3.1 from the codes given by Serban, I am running Linux Lite 5.8 on a Compaq Presario CQ 56 2 gigahertz processor and 4 GB ram dual boot with Windows 7 home premium on a 320 GB HDD.  I haven't had any errors or problems with the updates of both Thunderbird mail and Mozilla Firefox browser.  Thanks to Serban and Jerry for the help.

Hi, Vint!

I searched the machine and looks very much like my old Lenovo T400. On this machine, I did even video & audio editing, using OpenShot and Audacity so, I guess you're very much entitled to "ask for more": this "baby", is nowhere near to the Recycle Bin!

Thunderbird 102.3.1

I got the update also, yesterday. It's weird, because I installed it manually. I checked the PPA list again, but there is nothing like a "PPA: mozilla..."

Here is the list:

Regards,
Șerban.

[vint]

Howdy Serban,
That is weird indeed, again thanks for all of the help and I am loving Linux Lite on my old laptop, it runs smooth like Windows 10 never happened.  Linux Lite uses so little resources and doesn't max out my cpu and ram like W7 does, I should have installed an SSD last year instead of HDD and it would be even faster.

Best regards,

[Şerban S.]

[...] I should have installed an SSD last year instead of HDD and it would be even faster.

Hello, Vint!

I have about 22 months of practice using SSD drives. Now, I know merchants love their commercials and boost performance in words to make the products "eye-catching". Putting all this BS aside, I checked the performance individually, on each machine I used and the speed boost a SSD can offer, largely depends on the technical specifications of the given machine.
On this machine (Dell Precision T1700), the measurements show a speed boost of about 500% (five times faster than HDD). Previously, I had two types of HDD: Western Digital and Seagate. I never had the money to buy the server-type (10,000 rpm) so I bought the 7,200 rpm versions, even 5,400 rpm. So this was the comparison term: HDD 500 GB, 5,400 rpm.
While the articles on this subject say the speed of a 5,400 is 100 MB/sec and for 7,200 rpm is 120 MB/sec (never ever got that!!), the measured speed for a SSD, is around 350... 400 MB/sec.
See the image below. Obviously, the test was conducted on Linux Lite 6.0:

I know now that we need a comparison with another media benchmark. So, here it is! An old Seagate laptop HDD, 120 GB:

Theoretically, it is 10 times faster. When you copy files though, the transfer window shows a different story!
Anyway, a SSD IS at least, 5 times faster than any HDD.

Here is another benchmark, for an external Seagate Elements, 4 TB, USB 3:

Why are the values so different?

I used different partitioning systems over time. I noticed that the MSDOS partition table type, leads to slow reading/writing speeds, while GPT partitioning, leads to a way faster read/write speed.
The read value at about 35 MB/sec, is given by a MSDOS partitioning table of a HDD, with an ext2 file system.
The read values of 179 MB/sec and respectively 385 MB/sec, are given ba GPT partitions of a HDD, ext2 file systems.
Comparing the speed values of the same type of drive AND partitioning type, makes sense. Otherwise, it's BS. It's black-hat marketing. Period!

The problem with those GPT partitions is that are difficult to use on a BIOS firmware machine. They are incompatible and using them, might damage the drives.
Getting at this point, leaves us with the above said speed for a SSD:
On an GPT partition, AND a UEFI firmware, you get a 5 times speed boost;
On an MSDOS partition, AND a BIOS firmware, you get a 5 times speed boost;
The 10 times boost, results from comparing dogs with elephants:
That is, when you benchmark a HDD with MSDOS partitioning and a SSD with a GPT partitioning, and you put the values side by side, without specifying the drive type AND partitioning type! Which is BS.
It would be the same as to say a bycicle is the same with the latest BMW car, or a Hummer, just because the two kinds of transport, have wheels...

Cheers!
Have a wonderful day!

[vint]

Very interesting indeed,
I've read some of those comparisons you mention in the past and comparing bicycles and mustangs is stupid, but at the time I needed a drive for the laptop and SSD's were still fairly expensive and I couldn't afford one at the time.  I did purchase a Samsung EVO for my wife's laptop in early 2022 and the cost had dropped by almost half, When I booted hers up I was shocked at how fast it was and had regrets immediately.  If I decide to keep my Compaq Presario into the next year I will consider a c/o from hdd to ssd. 

Best regards,

[Valtam]

It looks as though Thunderbird has been released from the Ubuntu repositories. If someone else can confirm this please (not the Mozilla PPA).

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