Linux Lite 7.0 RC1 Released

[stevef]

Are you checking this box during installation? "Install third-party software for graphics and Wi-Fi and hardware and additional media formats"

I've installed several times.

The locking up problem occurred earlier on installations that had the third-party drivers boxed checked during installation.
The post lock up logs from those installations were similar - featuring the 'RT_LINEAR_WITH_ZETA' and 'WebKitWebProces' messages, though I don't have a record.

This particular set up was installed with the third-party drivers unchecked.
Checking for 'additional drivers' from the current system GUI reports none are installed (hence nouveau) and also that none are available which implies that the earlier installations with the box checked would not have found any proprietary drivers.


Subsequent to posting the system has been changed to use the motherboard built in graphics adaptor and it seems happier - so far without any lock ups

Code:

inxi -Gxxx
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Wani [Radeon R5/R6/R7 Graphics] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: amdgpu
           v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.0 chip ID: 1002:9874
           Device-2: NVIDIA G86 [GeForce 8500 GT] driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 07:00.0 chip ID: 10de:0421
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 21.1.11 driver: amdgpu,ati,modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon R7 Graphics (radeonsi carrizo LLVM 17.0.6 DRM 3.57 6.8.0-31-generic)
           v: 4.6 Mesa 24.0.5-1ubuntu1 direct render: Yes

[sqwuade]

I thought for a minute I had replicated the lite-updates freezing issue; the window with the progress bar froze up for around 20-30 seconds but then it did start moving again and the updating completed normally around 10-15 seconds after it started progressing again..
That was a fairly large update too, around 20 or so updates since it was the first time on a fresh install.  The computer's an old one I got for free from a friend who was going to toss it - Duo-Core 2 proc, w/ 4Gb RAM.  The video card is an Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 3.

I ran "sudo lshw -c video" and the output confirms it is using the nouveau driver:

sudo lshw -c video
  *-display               
      description: VGA compatible controller
      product: GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 3]
      vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
      physical id: 0
      bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
      logical name: /dev/fb0
      version: a2
      width: 64 bits
      clock: 33MHz
      capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom fb
      configuration: depth=32 driver=nouveau latency=0 resolution=1440,900
      resources: irq:25 memory:fb000000-fbffffff memory:b0000000-bfffffff memory:ce000000-cfffffff ioport:cf00(size=128) memory:c0000-dffff

I'll try again maybe tonight and see if anything changes but it did complete successfully after what initially seemed to be a hard lock.

[sqwuade]

Jerry,  What do you think about adding a file like this to /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d so sudo users don't get asked for their password all the time?

https://digitalhemi.com/files/apps/Linux...sudo.rules

[Şerban S.]

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Code:

inxi -Gxxx
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Wani [Radeon R5/R6/R7 Graphics] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: amdgpu
           v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.0 chip ID: 1002:9874
           Device-2: NVIDIA G86 [GeForce 8500 GT] driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 07:00.0 chip ID: 10de:0421
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 21.1.11 driver: amdgpu,ati,modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon R7 Graphics (radeonsi carrizo LLVM 17.0.6 DRM 3.57 6.8.0-31-generic)
           v: 4.6 Mesa 24.0.5-1ubuntu1 direct render: Yes

I think you need to check the Intel X11 drivers.
I remember back then when I was on Linux Mint, I had lots of trouble with the video and I did a lot of digging.
For whatever reason, the default installation pushed some Intel drivers that were then conflicting with the kernel code, that rendered support for a lot of intel video chips.
In this case, it is possible that the kernel support conflicts with some packages that overlap with the kernel support leading to conflicts.
I solved the window bleeding and artifacts simply by manually removing the intel X11 driver.
Now, as I understand, the range of video chips supported at kernel level got larger and maybe your cards (both internal and the dedicated), might work just using the kernel supported devices.
I'd like to test this, but this requires the disassembling the UC, putting the NVidia card, changing the connections from the Intel chip to the card and this takes lots of time.
Besides, the NVidia performance is way behind the Intel chip so I gave up testing. The amount of FPS on NVidia wad something like 5 - 35 FPS /PAL, 720p, while on Intel, I got an average of 65 FPS, zero artifacts or audio desyncs and also without frame dropping, even on >40 minutes (60 - 90 min) videos with lots of effects, animations and transitions.
That makes me belive that you might get better results using the Radeon chip instead of NVidia, although it might work fine if the useless drivers are removed manually.
Unfortunately, I don't have an AMD machine to test the theory (The machine stays in Germany, where my wife works).
The only thing I can say though, is that when I setup the Lite on my wife's laptop (ASUS M415U, AMD 6 core 12 threads) the only trouble I had was the WiFi driver that needed to be downloaded.
The video tests, although scarce (my wife works in western Germany, Frankfurt so time is of essence when she's home...) proved some 85 - 120 FPS.
I forgot the type of video, the docs only say about "AMD Radeon".

If the following helps, this is the inxi report of the system:

Code:

sudo inxi -c 0 -ACdGMNSz
[sudo] password for monica:
System:
  Kernel: 5.15.0-107-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0
  Distro: Linux Lite 6.6 LTS
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: VivoBook_ASUSLaptop X415UA_M415UA
  v: 1.0 serial: <filter>
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X415UA v: 1.0 serial: <filter>
  UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: X415UA.304 date: 08/13/2021
CPU:
  Topology: 6-Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics bits: 64
  type: MT MCP L2 cache: 3072 KiB
  Speed: 1397 MHz min/max: 1400/2100 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1397 2: 1396
  3: 1396 4: 1397 5: 1397 6: 1397 7: 1396 8: 1397 9: 1397 10: 1397 11: 1397
  12: 1397
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel
  Display: server: X.Org 1.21.1.4 driver: amdgpu,ati
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: RENOIR (renoir LLVM 15.0.7 DRM 3.42 5.15.0-107-generic)
  v: 4.6 Mesa 23.2.1-1ubuntu3.1~22.04.2
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-2: AMD Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio Processor driver: N/A
  Device-3: AMD Family 17h HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.15.0-107-generic
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
  driver: rtw_8821ce
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 534.67 GiB used: 38.18 GiB (7.1%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: MZVLQ512HALU-00000
  size: 476.94 GiB
  ID-2: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DataTraveler 3.0
  size: 57.73 GiB
  Message: No Optical or Floppy data was found.

[Leviticus]

Just curious, was you able to port the last WolflandBuilder from *buntu 22.04?

[Valtam]

Just curious, was you able to port the last WolflandBuilder from *buntu 22.04?

Yes, no problem.

[Valtam]

I noticed a small bug / glitch when using the new lite-tweaks file Jerry.  Not a huge deal but the checkmark icons you have in the script might not show up correctly in the original version.  I've updated the file so, hopefully, that won't happen with this version:

https://digitalhemi.com/files/apps/Linux...ite-tweaks

I especially noticed the problem when running the browser cashe cleaning tweaks (Firefox and Chrome).  The checkmark icons showed up in Zenity as "ee-^e" or something bizarre like that.

[quote author=Jerry link=topic=9602.msg62153#msg62153 date=1716192371]
We'll be using [member=50208]sqwuade[/member] lite tweaks file, thank you.

zenity how has webkit disabled in the newer Ubuntu packages, so we put a mark hold on zenity and zenity-common
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zenity/+changelog

[/quote]

Fixed.

What text editor are you using?

[sqwuade]

The last iteration was all Mousepad.  After I noticed the fluke I made sure to only use a very basic text editor.

Are you going to do a RC2 of LL7?

Fixed.

What text editor are you using?

[Valtam]

I think the last iteration was all Mousepad.  After I noticed the fluke I made sure to only use a very basic text editor.

[quote author=Jerry link=topic=9602.msg62201#msg62201 date=1716784169]
Fixed.

What text editor are you using?

[/quote]

I use Mousepad too.

[trinidad]

Did new 7.0 install with fixes, thank you Jerry and all others involved.
Lite Tweaks ... all good
Lite Updates ... all good
Lite Software ... all good
Chrome ... all good
SSH ... all good
Remmina ... all good
Progress bars ... all good
Package manager ... all good
Installation ... all good including microcode and firmware
Still the BEST Linux XFCE distro.

TC