Brave browser

[trinidad]

Those of you opting for Brave browser may want to take a look at some relatively thorough and interesting commentary from this site. If you are offended by a little vulgar language do not let it discount the facts involved. The writer is very bright and informed, though he has a bit of an abnormal fixation about censorship and is vulgar at times on purpose, so it is not worth the bother to comment on his occasional vulgarity. He does hit upon most of the reasons of my own reticence about the Brave browser. I am preparing a reply to his commentary but it will be a few days before I put it all together. Many of the digital currency pioneers and entrepreneurs are nothing short of unethical hucksters, anarchists, and profligate millionaire gangsters. There is a dark lingering history of havoc in their rise to prominence.
https://ludditus.com/
TC     

[Artim]

Wow, that was fun...


The user can opt out of all that stuff the author complains about (the crypto, etc), and I do. But I remain a fan of the founder and CEO for his "unpopular" stance on issues of the day.


Brave is built on Chromium, which relies on and defaults to Google way too much. There's ungoogled-chromium, which is a little better, but it still "wants" to run back to Google, at least in my experience. You can turn off any features you don't want, and doing so is simple. Browsing is ad-free, private, and fast.


And the author concludes his rant in a way that is typical of far-left extremists: "If you disagree then you're a moron."


The article isn't a review of a product, it's a political rant.

[Moltke]

There are way too many people out there with way too much time on their hands who write stuff like this. I don't use brave, don't really like it; tried it, its built-in "ad-blocker" didn't work for me, I had to install uBlock Origin, that being said, I disagree in many points he(ludditus)makes, for one and as artim said, all of those settings can be easily disabled. Also, I didn't find it particularly good or better than Firefox or Chromium, which are the 2 browsers I use the most.

[trinidad]

Wow, that was fun...

Yes he is a very disagreeable person, Romanian I believe, but though he seems to reflect left leaning views in some cases, I doubt he is particularly concerned with politics other than ridiculing it as a whole, much like his comments on the Linux desktop. In my opinion he is criticizing how we assimilate information in general regardless of the subject or source, and in doing so, I think he knows he is risking being labelled as anarchistic even though he is actually labeling the modern purveyors of information as the anarchists. I don't think it's possible to arrive at an opinion about his politics from his postings, as his general purpose seems to be attempting to create a dichotomy between the way the human brain processes useless information in the digital age, and the fact that consequences good or bad are resulting from this process that the majority of thinking humans don't care about. We have created a situation in our world today where the vast majority of social, political, and now even scientific commentary is formulated with appeals to either popularity or unpopularity rather than fact. Even more so, I feel he is attempting to illuminate that modern digital commentary often is very brief and makes simple statements so complex that effectively factually arguing another point of view would require a 100 page formal paper with footnotes and a bibliography, and further that the persons making the original comments have no idea how complex their statements are. I, being older, would just call it human nature that the human brain takes longer to eradicate historical errors from long strings of logic often preferring to add conclusions on top of monoliths of faulty logic, and part of me wants to give him a certain grace as far as that observation goes, as his general criticism of things digital seems to adapt that structural view. In any case some things he commented about were interesting to me.

Don't take my philosophical generosity as excusing leftist politics or materialism in general.

TC

[Moltke]

Wow, that was fun...

In my opinion he is criticizing how we assimilate information in general regardless of the subject or source, and in doing so, I think he knows he is risking being labelled as anarchistic even though he is actually labeling the modern purveyors of information as the anarchists. I don't think it's possible to arrive at an opinion about his politics from his postings, as his general purpose seems to be attempting to create a dichotomy between the way the human brain processes useless information in the digital age, and the fact that consequences good or bad are resulting from this process that the majority of thinking humans don't care about. We have created a situation in our world today where the vast majority of social, political, and now even scientific commentary is formulated with appeals to either popularity or unpopularity rather than fact.

In my opinion, that's exactly what he's doing; he's giving you "information" regardless of the subject or source, merely his opinion, not facts. Why does it matter whether Brave is it or not a Chinese app? I don't get the China-fobia thing.

Even more so, I feel he is attempting to illuminate that modern digital commentary often is very brief and makes simple statements so complex that effectively factually arguing another point of view would require a 100 page formal paper with footnotes and a bibliography, and further that the persons making the original comments have no idea how complex their statements are. I, being older, would just call it human nature that the human brain takes longer to eradicate historical errors from long strings of logic often preferring to add conclusions on top of monoliths of faulty logic, and part of me wants to give him a certain grace as far as that observation goes, as his general criticism of things digital seems to adapt that structural view. In any case some things he commented about were interesting to me.

I think most of the people who write stuff like this are copywriters; paid to write text used in marketing and promotional materials. He's ranting about so many things he probably uses every day, he doesn't even mention what browser he uses. At this age, any piece of software you use is no perfect, there will always be something that will have you scratching your head, wondering why you're using it in the first place. Technology, is a corporate thing, is a business, whether the people behind it claim otherwise, the ethics or moral of the people involved in such projects is something we can't just grasp as easily, as whatever we may or may not(think)see is bound to our own beliefs, which of course, are not perfect, as they reflect what we chose to label as "right" or "wrong".