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Before Linux Lite - bermudalite - 12-12-2017
Hi Jerry,
If you feel like sharing...I'm curious as to what distro(s) was your preferred daily driver prior to creating Linux Lite.
Thx
Re: Before Linux Lite - Valtam - 12-12-2017
Arch Linux.
Re: Before Linux Lite - bermudalite - 12-12-2017
That's interesting.
I don't know much about Arch, I've read comments that it's not typically recommended for Linux beginners.
I know your goal with Linux Lite was to dispel the myths about Linux being difficult.
Is that why LL is based on Ubuntu?
Were you ever tempted to create Linux Lite distro based on Arch?
Re: Before Linux Lite - Valtam - 12-12-2017
Was not interested in building a rolling release distro. Ubuntu base is more suited for beginners than Arch base. Better, easier to follow documentation too.
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Re: Before Linux Lite - Teddy - 02-16-2018
Before Linux Lite, I mainly used Ubuntu circa 2011-2013. At that time, it was still the Unity desktop, which is still a favorite of mine in some of its features. After Ubuntu, I went to Arch Linux and built a KDE desktop. That lasted from 2013-2014 and then switched to Linux Lite. Learned many things off of Arch, and probably will not attempt to do that again! Dumped LL for OpenSUSE Leap 42.1, also KDE but wanted to experience an RPM distro for a change after using Ubuntu/Debian based for years, and I absolutely refused to use Fedora. Bought a "new" barely used for less than 1 year ASUS gaming laptop for very cheap at a local pawn shop in March 2017. I didn't install a Linux distro on that for a few months because the touchpad did not function in every distro I tried it with, including LL. I tried Manjaro KDE and stuck with it because the touchpad did work, but barely. Right click button did not function and left click button only worked about 50% of the time. This was fixed later with a Linux kernel update, and hopefully by now has trickled down to LL. I will try it again and see...
Re: Before Linux Lite - m654321 - 02-16-2018
(02-16-2018, 05:15 AM)Teddy link Wrote: Bought a "new" barely used for less than 1 year ASUS gaming laptop for very cheap at a local pawn shop in March 2017. I didn't install a Linux distro on that for a few months because the touchpad did not function in every distro I tried it with, including LL. I tried Manjaro KDE and stuck with it because the touchpad did work, but barely. Right click button did not function and left click button only worked about 50% of the time. This was fixed later with a Linux kernel update, and hopefully by now has trickled down to LL. I will try it again and see...
I was interested to hear your experiences of a recently bought i7 core Asus gaming laptop. I have the slightly older G750, compared to your more recent G752 model. My experience was that everything worked smoothly with LL or other distros I've tried (PCLOS, Manjaro, et, etc) on this laptop, if I didn't have a UEFI setup.
Did you use UEFI - maybe this is the source of your problems with the G752? The only pain I had was getting UEFI to work satisfactorily - you can see a tutorial & troubleshooting on this that I posted elsewhere on the forum. In the end I found it was just simpler to install without UEFI, using an msdos (MBR) formatted drive. I get the impression, that with UEFI, some firmware wont work properly so the computer can be compromised. UEFI is not considered very highly on this forum and seems to be just an added complication.
When you said you bought your laptop cheaply from a pawnshop, this made me wonder if the previous owner got rid of it because it wasn't working properly, hence the problems you experienced - just a thought ... These laptops are normally very expensive to buy (£1200 or more), not cheap by any means.
Re: Before Linux Lite - Teddy - 02-16-2018
(02-16-2018, 08:42 AM)m654321 link Wrote: I was interested to hear your experiences of a recently bought i7 core Asus gaming laptop. I have the slightly older G750, compared to your more recent G752 model. My experience was that everything worked smoothly with LL or other distros I've tried (PCLOS, Manjaro, et, etc) on this laptop, if I didn't have a UEFI setup.
Did you use UEFI - maybe this is the source of your problems with the G752? The only pain I had was getting UEFI to work satisfactorily - you can see a tutorial & troubleshooting on this that I posted elsewhere on the forum. In the end I found it was just simpler to install without UEFI, using an msdos (MBR) formatted drive. I get the impression, that with UEFI, some firmware wont work properly so the computer can be compromised. UEFI is not considered very highly on this forum and seems to be just an added complication.
When you said you bought your laptop cheaply from a pawnshop, this made me wonder if the previous owner got rid of it because it wasn't working properly, hence the problems you experienced - just a thought ... These laptops are normally very expensive to buy (£1200 or more), not cheap by any means.
I bought the laptop for about $780 USD in Mar/2017. My configuration is worth about $2000 USD when new in 2016. Everything was working, touchpad, CD drive, keyboard and the backlighting, came pre-installed with Windows 10. The charger still had the plastic wrapping on it. It still had some data from the previous owner, so I did a factory reset and used Windows 10.
ITried lots of live USBs of Linux, with Secure Boot off and BIOS mode on in the case of Linux Lite (No UEFI support with LL). I looked up the problem and the touchpad issue was because of a driver in Linux. The touchpad is an ELAN touchpad with two physical click buttons. Ubuntu and Linux Lite didn't even recognize it was there, forcing me to use an external mouse. Manjaro KDE was the exception, though the driver still didn't cooperate well. The ELAN driver bundled with the kernel thought that my touchpad was one of those "clickpad" units, where the entire pad presses down to initiate a left click (or right click) where mine has physical buttons for left and right click. Kernel update fixed it and works as it should now. No hardware error from my experience.
Re: Before Linux Lite - bitsnpcs - 02-16-2018
Before installing Linux Lite I had only used Windows install.
I am one of a typical Linux Lite target audience.
Re: Before Linux Lite - 97trophy - 02-20-2018
I have been away from Linux for almost 10 years. The last distro I used was Freespire.
In the old days laptops would never last but now I have an 8 year old Acer 10 inch that works fine but not with Windows.
Re: Before Linux Lite - ptyerman - 02-20-2018
My first trial with Linux was at the end of the nineties with Red Hat Linux, I still have the installation CD somewhere, it came as a magazine cover CD. Not too long after that I installed Mandrake Linux and was very impressed, I think it was version 5 or 6, I stuck with that for quite a while. My next one was Suse Linux Professional, I loved that and stuck with it until Novell gave it up and it became OpenSuse.
After that I've pretty much hopped between distro's and not been stuck to one in particular. All of these have been dual boot with Windows which I still do now.
I use what I find most suitable for the task at the time, I use Bodhi Linux on a couple of machines, Antix, Damn Small Linux and various incarnations of Puppy Linux gets used on some old PC's, and now 3 of my systems have Linux Lite on them including my main PC.
I also have a few machines running Amithlon and X-Amiga, both of which use a custom Linux with a Gentoo 2.6 kernel to boot the Amiga system and Workbench so I'll include them as Linux machines.
